Any fans of the "Frankenguns" Here? :)

Discussion in 'CZ Pistol Forums' started by Jimmmm, Feb 1, 2014.

  1. Jimmmm

    Jimmmm New Member

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    I love my CZ 40 P. I actually like the feel of it better than my two CZ 75's. It's inspired me two promise to change my 75's to rubber grips and an extension on my compact at some point in the future.

    Unlike the 75's, my 40 P doesn't have a "eats any ammo" character - it likes the smaller faced flat nose bullets - Winchester white box and smaller (like 170 or 165 grain) bullets, which are completely reliable. Fiocchi works outstanding. And there are a brand of factory reloads in 165 gr. that are almost (but not completely) round nose - they're superb. Remington and Federal 180 grain work most of the time, but not 100%. So I avoid them. They have the larger flat surface area on the nose.

    Also, only the original mag works 100% for me, so I'm looking for another one. The Mecgar 12 round that everyone suggests works, but it doesn't cycle as smoothly (though never jams) so I'm looking for another original.

    That being said, the gun is very accurate and has good recoil for a .40. And the decocker blows the decocker on my 75 bd away - for some reason, it's MUCH smoother. Just a little nicer looking than the 75's, too. The alloy frame makes the weight perfect. If the gun was a little smaller and I could find a good holster, I'd carry it.
     
  2. Easy CZ

    Easy CZ Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    You know the old saying...Pics or it didn't happen. ;)
     

  3. SloMo

    SloMo New Member

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    Is it reliable with carry ammo? Sounds like only with the WWB runs reliably so far.
     
  4. Redsoxwa

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    I'd like a RAMI P with minimal frame bulge and a decock lever, Nites and some love on the action like
    a #13 mainspring for a lighter trigger pull..

    It would be a few ounces lighter than my RAMI or a new RAMI BD.

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    No idea if CZ-USA or other shops could install the decocker, or not.
     
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  5. Jimmmm

    Jimmmm New Member

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    What I'm saying is that any ammo with a nose surface as small as WWB or smaller works great. This includes Fiocchi and red box reloads.

    I can use Federal 180 grain and have it work 99% of the time, but I stick with 100% ammo. If one can get over having to use specific brands of ammo, the gun is outstanding. One of the best I own. Just need to find another factory mag.
     
  6. Public_Domain

    Public_Domain New Member

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    Does the CZ99 classify as a Frankengun or something else?
     
  7. Bone

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    I have a 40P and love it.It wasn't always the case.It had FTF issues.I read all the stuff on the internet about it.
    I didn't believe you have to buy Wolf springs,recoil & magazine on a new gun.I couldn't get thru 3 shots without at FTF.
    What worked for me was to put a light film of grease on the outside of the barrel.This gun is very tight and accurate.long story short the problem went away INSTANTLY.It is now broken in and shoots anything.It really likes the Lee 145 gr bullet and 5 gr of PB.
    I cant sttle on a load for it because of the powder situation.i load whatever I can get.Power pistol,accurate,PB,HS6 so far.I just load mildly and they all function with the Lee 145 & 175 gr bullets. So if your having FTF try greasing the barrel[not the lugs] before you throw parts at it.Someone will prolly say..'the grease will attract dirt,powder grains,belly button lint etc.I say clean it afterward and don't roll around in the dirt.You wont need to grease it once it settles in.And don't use blobs of grease.
     
  8. Jimmmm

    Jimmmm New Member

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    170 grain and smaller bullets work excellent bullets work great for me. Fiocchi factory loads with this size bullet are always flawless. As I said, there are some 165 grain factory reloads that are outstanding. I'll try greasing as you said. My gun is the most accurate .40/.45 that I own. Best ergonomically. Like it better than my two CZ75 9mm's. :)
     
  9. Jimmmm

    Jimmmm New Member

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    The CZ40P is the "Frankengun," which is not always a term of endearment for some folks. There was a joint venture by Colt and CZ several years back. They were to design and build a gun together. To the best of my recollection, one version of the gun was marketed by Colt and sold as a Colt using Colt nomenclature. CZ also marketed the gun as a CZ, and it was called the CZ 40B.

    Colt then backed out of the deal (or so I've read) and CZ was left with a whole bunch of slides left over. This lead to a third version of the gun. Rather than discard the slides, I believe they modified them to work on a standard CZ P01 frame (Or maybe modified the frame?) Because it was a retrofit - and kind of reverse engineered - the gun needed a little tweaking by customers to live up to the standard CZ reliability reputation. Those customers who weren't inclined towards doing that threw up their hands and walked away.

    But the gun can be made 100% reliable with little effort, and the accuracy is great. Many owners say it's the most accurate .40 CZ they have. I shoot mine as accurately as my best 9mm's. I just need another factory mag.
     
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