I was at my LGS yesterday, and they happened to have a 75B used, in the case. Well, I was quite disappointed. It didn't feel awesome in my hand, and the finish looked weird. It almost looked like powder coat. Cheap. This was the B model, I'm more interested in the B SA model. They appear identical, except for the trigger. Still, I'd like to check out a new one. But I went there ready to put a deposit down on a new one. They could get them, $600 even. I held off.
75B Dissapointment
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The finish is called "Polycoat" and is very durable. Much better than the old blue finish which showed holster wear almost immediately. I shoot a 75B single action, a Shadow and a 97B in competition with good results. They are 100% reliable. The triggers on the standard models always need work though. The 97B came with aluminum thin grips which are nice. The Shadow is a Custom Shop only gun and has a great trigger. Got to www.czcustom.com to see their line of pistols.
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Bummer! Wasn't all ya expected it to be.
They are not for everybody. Otherwise, all the other companies would be out of the pistol business.
This is America and you have choices. Figure out what works for you.
A little off topic, but one thing I have noticed is that American pistol consumers are just as brand conscious about thier handguns as they are about everything else. I took my neighbor shooting a couple of weekends ago. I had my 75B and he brought his Glock "Fo-tay". I let him shoot my CZ, and his groups with it were easily half the size of the groups with his Glock. So, I suggest he invest it a CZ 75B. "Nah," he says, "It's not a Glock."
This is America and you have choices. Figure out what works for you.
A little off topic, but one thing I have noticed is that American pistol consumers are just as brand conscious about thier handguns as they are about everything else. I took my neighbor shooting a couple of weekends ago. I had my 75B and he brought his Glock "Fo-tay". I let him shoot my CZ, and his groups with it were easily half the size of the groups with his Glock. So, I suggest he invest it a CZ 75B. "Nah," he says, "It's not a Glock."
Sounds about right. Who cares how well you shoot it. It's all about the name on the slide.They are not for everybody. Otherwise, all the other companies would be out of the pistol business.
This is America and you have choices. Figure out what works for you.
A little off topic, but one thing I have noticed is that American pistol consumers are just as brand conscious about thier handguns as they are about everything else. I took my neighbor shooting a couple of weekends ago. I had my 75B and he brought his Glock "Fo-tay". I let him shoot my CZ, and his groups with it were easily half the size of the groups with his Glock. So, I suggest he invest it a CZ 75B. "Nah," he says, "It's not a Glock."
FALPhil, good points. Now, I wish I could try one. It's just that it felt a little uncomfortable to hold. If it felt OK to shoot, and I could hit with it, that'd be fine. I wonder, is there such a thing as being able to hit something, but having the gun not feel comfortable at the same time? Your buddy that could shoot it but didn't like it because it wasn't a Glock, was that the ONLY reason? I will tell you what, I am NOT THAT brand loyal!
CZ pistols are very difficult to find compared to other brands because they are developing a reputation for quality. Even though in USPSA and IPSC Glocks are used in Production division with more frequency, CZ (or the clones like EAA, Tanfoglio) dominates with the most wins. The Shadows from CZ Custom here in Mesa, Az take 6 to 8 months usually to get. Here I am shooting a 75B and a Shadow.
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It means the same thing it always means --- "many".
Apparently CZ "polycoat" is a polymer (bake on paint type? -- unclear) over a parkerized undercoat.
I think it is possible but not probable. My experience is that I shoot better when the gun is comfortable.
Yes. I was flabbergasted. But, each to his own.
some times the grip style can also affect the feel of the gun why there are replaceable back straps on the polymer guns but with the steel or aluminum frame the only option is replacing the grips. I have smaller hands so prefer the thin aluminum grips with the friction tape over the rubber or plastic grips. they fit my hand better. someone with larger hands would probably prefer the rubber or plastic grip of even a Hogue over grip on the gun. The stainless gun also has a different appearance either shiny or matte. don't have to worry about the polycoat that way.
How the gun feels in your hand makes little difference especially if you are a novice. How it points and returns to target during the recoil cycle is what you need to worry about. If the gun comes to the target quickly and returns quickly then you'll learn like the way it feels just fine. I'm loving mine right now because I came in 2nd in Production Division and won my class easily at Hosemasters today.
I view the polycoat as a signature feature of late model CZ pistols. If a Smith and Wesson K frame had that kind of finish, it would be wrong, because it's out of character for the weapon.
For me, it's part of the CZ appeal, at least on late models. It says "CZ". It says "eastern European" military. And it's very durable.
I will say that I think CZ is making a mistake by not putting rubber grips on most of their guns from the factory. It would give them a better feel. Just ordered some today, and one of my other CZ pistols has rubber grips, and the gun feels great with them.
As the lowest priced premium grade, world class pistol available, I'm guessing that CZ opted for the hard grips on the CZ 75B to keep their list price (until recently) under $500. Of course, some folks and purists may prefer the hard stock grips, but I seem to find a lot of folks who don't.
For me, it's part of the CZ appeal, at least on late models. It says "CZ". It says "eastern European" military. And it's very durable.
I will say that I think CZ is making a mistake by not putting rubber grips on most of their guns from the factory. It would give them a better feel. Just ordered some today, and one of my other CZ pistols has rubber grips, and the gun feels great with them.
As the lowest priced premium grade, world class pistol available, I'm guessing that CZ opted for the hard grips on the CZ 75B to keep their list price (until recently) under $500. Of course, some folks and purists may prefer the hard stock grips, but I seem to find a lot of folks who don't.
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The Polycoat is a powdercoat type finish and is very durable. It also has self lubricating properties. I love my CZs better than all my examples of striker fired plastic guns.
To each his own.
To each his own.
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