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Hi,

I have a 452 American, Left Hand model, that is pretty nice. I'm not in love with it, it's not as nice to shoot (trigger), nor is it as accurate as my old Remington 513T Matchmaster. It is nice enough, but me and scopes don't get along the best. Knowing that, and the fact that the 452 American can only be scoped, I should have foregone the 452 American altogether. I now want THE BEST iron sighted CZ, 22 rifle.
So, 452 Ultra Lux? 452 Trainer? What others should I consider?
This will be used for informal competition, out to 100 yd (but mostly 50 yd) and for my own (accurate) shooting pleasure.
I love the small groups that my 513 produces, but I just want another 22 bolt gun. It might as well be a CZ.

Thanks.
 

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As far as I know, the 455 is the current production model. I believe the improvements over the 452 have to do with barrel changes. Either way, I seriously doubt you can go wrong.
 

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I have the 452 UL and really like it. But for iron sighted CZ 22 rifles, my favorite is the 453 Lux. Hard to find in the US, but a real nice trigger, stock, and the good CZ tangent sights. A close second would be the 452 FS and the 452 UL. The Trainer is nice too. I only have one 455 (a varmint, thus no sights). Photos I have seen of the 455 UL looks real good too, but I haven't seen one in person yet.

Truthfully, you can't go wrong with any of them in my experience.
 

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Well, I may end waiting on either of the UL models. I ended up winning a GunBroker auction for a Remington 521 T rifle with open/iron (aperture) sights. The stock was cut, by 1.3/4", which was common back in the day, for young shooters. I made a 3/4" wooden "addition", and added a 1" slip on recoil pad, which makes it perfect. It was $275 with tax and it seems to be real nice. It is a first year production, 1947, and it has quite a reputation for accuracy. It is very similar to the 513T that I already have, but it is a bit shorter and lighter. Th trigger on the 521 is non-adj, and it is not supposed to be on par with the adj trigger on the 513. But I just measured it and it averages 4.21 lb for 5 pulls. There is some over travel, but a short take up and very little creep. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet. But I hope to soon.

The CZ's aren't out of the race completely...after all, why not get one too???
 

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Soooo, I ended up sighting in and shooting my 521T. It is a very nice shooting rifle. I had several one hole, three shot groups at 50 yd using Aguila Match Pistol of all things. Actually, the Match rifle shot almost as well. The groups were all 5 shots, and they opened up a bit from the 3 shot clover, to around 3/4"- 1 1/4", so it has some potential. I had a quartering wind of around 7-8 mph with some slightly higher gusts.
The trigger is a bit rougher/tougher than the 513T, but it certainly is manageable.
But, I just had to have the 452 UL too. It was ordered tonight. Ahhh, another 22 rifle to sight in. And there is some Eley Target on it's way to my home as of yesterday...
 

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I have the CZ452 Lux, Ultra Lux and Trainer. The did put a scope on the Lux but other than that the Lux and the Ultra Lux stay pretty and stock. The Trainer is my for the money gun.


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