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Hey guys new to the forum, also new to CZ firearms. I'm looking into picking up a cz-P09 was wondering if anybody can give out some pros and cons on the weapon? Any issues that are common or likes dislikes about it?

Thank you!
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The 75 and SP-01 don't really have a low bore axis. People often mistake the low profile slide as a sign of a low bore axis.

Bore axis is the vertical distance from where the hand meets the beavertail to the center of the bore. It's quite a bit higher on hammer-fired pistols than what it is on most striker fired pistols. The length of the hammer sees to that.

If I remember correctly the bore axis height is about 1.5" on my 75, Shadow 2, P-07, and P-09. It's barely 3/4" on my P-10F, P-10C, and Glocks 17 and 19.
i think a lot of people (and youtubers) equate the way the cz slides dovetail within the frame as low bore axis.
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i think a lot of people (and youtubers) equate the way the cz slides dovetail within the frame as low bore axis.
The gun world is full of "facts" that aren't correct at all
  • CZs have low bore axis
  • Nitriding is a coating
  • Cold hammer forged barrels are better/more accurate/longer lasting
  • Confusing tight tolerances with a tight fit (they are most definitely not the same thing nor one necessary for the other)
  • Reloaders talking about runout (most have no idea how to really check it)
  • etc
As an engineer with professional knowledge of some of these topics, it's like nails dragging on a chalkboard
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The gun world is full of "facts" that aren't correct at all
As an engineer with professional knowledge of some of these topics, it's like nails dragging on a chalkboard
My son says, "Dad, that ship has sailed" and he's right. One person, understanding the technical definitions, doesn't stand an ice-cube's-catch-in-boiling-water of changing how a word or phrase is used commonly by the public. It's a losing battle. (Plus, time is probably spent elsewhere.)
IMHE
No, they're not even close.

The firing pin, firing pin spring, and hammer spring are the only parts that interchange. The entire trigger mechanism is different, the recoil spring is different, the slides don't interchange, and even the barrel to slide lock up is completely different.

You would be right if you were talking about the SP-01 Phantom.
Wow, what a judgemental crowd. I wasn't suggesting they are the same in every way. They are basically the same duty weapon size with a reduction in weight with the polymer. I understand the omega trigger and internals and do my own gunsmith work. The internal enhancements from Cajun Gun Works make a great gun better. If you looked at their website they explain the parts available for each CZ pistol. And, as you so observed, each pistol is different in some way. I never said ALL parts interchange.
Wow, what a judgemental crowd. I wasn't suggesting they are the same in every way. They are basically the same duty weapon size with a reduction in weight with the polymer. I understand the omega trigger and internals and do my own gunsmith work. The internal enhancements from Cajun Gun Works make a great gun better. If you looked at their website they explain the parts available for each CZ pistol. And, as you so observed, each pistol is different in some way. I never said ALL parts interchange.
Hopefully, you understand that you are in the middle land of the World Wide Interwebs.
This is a dangerously touchy place to go! Everyone here has their own agenda and phobias and quirks. It's not judgemental but, rather, casual and crude -- just like at least a few people you have come across in your "wet" world.
Al-Anon tells its members to "Take What You Liked and Leave the Rest and an Internet Forum is a good place to practice.
HTH
YMMV
IMHE/IMHO
Hopefully, you understand that you are in the middle land of the World Wide Interwebs.
This is a dangerously touchy place to go! Everyone here has their own agenda and phobias and quirks. It's not judgemental but, rather, casual and crude -- just like at least a few people you have come across in your "wet" world.
Al-Anon tells its members to "Take What You Liked and Leave the Rest and an Internet Forum is a good place to practice.
HTH
YMMV
IMHE/IMHO
Then I'll leave this thread.
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