[WPhilB47]

New on this forum, but I guess all of us are somewhat new here. Only CZ product I have is a bastard child called the CZ2008. I think it's the best thing ever produced in it's class. Lighter, and more compact than an AK, and much more accurate. Excellent fit and finish, and a great collapsible stock. The bolt hold open on last shot is great too. Under 100 yards for soft targets I'll depend on my Sub2K40. All else out to 300 yds calls for my CZ2008. Beyond 300 yds I'll just hunker down and keep me and my CZ's mouth shut. Another thing I like is the mag and mag catch. You'll never see a mag fall out like on an AR or M-14 clone, or any other rifle that seats the mag with a straight push up. There is a reason for rocking that mag into place like the AK design. Very positive lock.

 

[Ajole]

There is a reason for rocking that mag into place like the AK design.

Absolutely. They do it that way so you can get leverage to force the spring loaded bullets up against that closed bolt, otherwise, you'd never get the mag seated.

Try it on a Saiga S12, you'll see why its a REALLY good thing.

 

[WPhilB47]

Absolutely. They do it that way so you can get leverage to force the spring loaded bullets up against that closed bolt, otherwise, you'd never get the mag seated.

Try it on a Saiga S12, you'll see why its a REALLY good thing.

Yep. An absolute necessity on AK variants since they don't have a bolt hold open device. Since the VZ.58 and the CZ2008 do (a manual hold open button, and a last shot magazine follower hold open) , it is just a welcome feature. Of course, if you are doing a tactical reload, it does make it much easier to seat the mag.

 

[dogwater]

Vz2008

Another forum newby here with a CAI VZ2008 (vz is short for 'vzor', meaning 'model'). I'm also really impressed with the quality of the design but that's Czech firearms for you. I haven't made any modifications to mine yet except for adding a piece of latex-wrapped foam pipe insulator to the folding stock. Here it is with the whole reason that I initially took notice of the mention of some sort of 'Czech AK-style' rifle - an example of the beautifully designed CZ vz.24 pistol marked with Czech military acceptance proofs from 1936 that shows heavy use but still shoots reliably today.

 

[balota]

Very fine gear. Do you carry that CZ24 regularly?

 

[balota]

And welcome to the forum by the way!

 

[dogwater]

Thanks for the welcome, balota. I do have an IWB holster for it and will wear it on the hike up to my usual shooting spot but at 24 oz empty and chambered in .380 it's not the most efficient CC option. I know some people do like it for CC as it does have very smooth lines and it's slim enough for me to wear it comfortably but it doesn't have a firing pin block or any other modern improvement, not to mention having been through a war. Back in the 20's and 30's this was considered a pocket gun and .380 considered sufficient but a Ruger LC9s, for example, is almost the same exact size and has a more smooth profile but is 7 oz lighter and chambered in 9x19 rather than 9x17.

 

[balota]

True, there are more efficient modern pistols. That's why I was wondering if you carried this one. Modern opinions aside, I doubt you'd get many volunteers to prove 380 is not sufficient by being the target.

 

[dogwater]

Well, I won't be volunteering, that's for sure. I think .380 is useful for true pocket carry applications. The vz. 24 is a family heirloom and a bit of living history for me. I shoot it once in awhile for fun.