Hmmm.........new gun in my future?
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No 9!? That's crazy talk! If you're wanting something for HD/Range, I'd pick up a CZ75 SP-01, 75B or P-09. If its going to be a carry gun, 75 Compact, RAMI or P-07.
I forget, do you have your CC license, Winds?
I'd do the 9 first and 45 second. Springfield makes some nice 1911s. The RO is a great value as a Range/HD gun.
I forget, do you have your CC license, Winds?
I'd do the 9 first and 45 second. Springfield makes some nice 1911s. The RO is a great value as a Range/HD gun.
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I'm not sure I'm a Glock person.
Yes, that is crazy talk. No, I do not have my CC yet but I will in the future. Just haven't taken the class yet.
Thanks for the info.
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No CC, what the heck you waiting for?
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I don't really know.
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I wasn't a Glock person either. But, I am now. I just really couldn't get use to the idea of a plastic pistola in the first place. Too old school I guess.
The 1911s are great. Nice shooting range guns. Good SD or HD guns. Just kinda heavy for a carry gun. well, for me anyway. Main reason I had to get use to the plastic guns. I use to carry an alloy Commander .45. But even that is heavy comared to most of the compact poly guns.
Can live with a 9. Have several and use them. But if I was in a reeal SHTF situation, I would rather have a caliber that starts with a "4."
The 1911s are great. Nice shooting range guns. Good SD or HD guns. Just kinda heavy for a carry gun. well, for me anyway. Main reason I had to get use to the plastic guns. I use to carry an alloy Commander .45. But even that is heavy comared to most of the compact poly guns.
Can live with a 9. Have several and use them. But if I was in a reeal SHTF situation, I would rather have a caliber that starts with a "4."
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OK, Windy, here's my thoughts...I love my CZ52, CZ83, CZ82 and have no problem CC with any of them if my clothing permits (CZ52 has it's very own Galco vertical shoulder holster) . All GREAT weapons and GREAT values, although the CZ52's are getting rather "pricey" here in Texas. All these Cold War CZ's are built like tanks and have functioned smoothly with any and all brands of ammo I've fed them...that's a big plus for autos. All three are accurate as the day is long. So, in my personal rating of firearms, they are all solid A+...dependable, accurate.
Concerning caliber, I personally have NO, NONE, ZERO problem with .380 as my primary carry. As far as that goes, I would have no problem relying on a .32 as long as the weapon was dependable and accurate. The third requirement for me (behind dependability and accuracy) is penetration. Bullet diameter falls much further down on my requirement checklist. That's why that should you decide on anything in the .32 or .380 caliber, I recommend FMJ to insure adequate penetration. There's lots of arguments for both FMJ and JHP on the web. For me, it's all about depth of penetration.
All this being said, the two weapons I can always carry (regardless of the season or my wardrobe) is either a DB380 in a Galco ankle holster or a S&W .38 bobbed-hammer snubbie in my Wranglers front right pocket. That's what fits me. IMHO, you can't beat a hammerless snubnose for day-in, day-out concealed carry.
Good luck and have fun shopping!
Concerning caliber, I personally have NO, NONE, ZERO problem with .380 as my primary carry. As far as that goes, I would have no problem relying on a .32 as long as the weapon was dependable and accurate. The third requirement for me (behind dependability and accuracy) is penetration. Bullet diameter falls much further down on my requirement checklist. That's why that should you decide on anything in the .32 or .380 caliber, I recommend FMJ to insure adequate penetration. There's lots of arguments for both FMJ and JHP on the web. For me, it's all about depth of penetration.
All this being said, the two weapons I can always carry (regardless of the season or my wardrobe) is either a DB380 in a Galco ankle holster or a S&W .38 bobbed-hammer snubbie in my Wranglers front right pocket. That's what fits me. IMHO, you can't beat a hammerless snubnose for day-in, day-out concealed carry.
Good luck and have fun shopping!
Why not go for the sig 938, then? I had the 238 and loved it -- soon as my favorite store got the 9mm in I bought it as well and it is my primary carry. Small, potent, good trigger... its sweet. Its only a tiny bit bigger than the 380. Recoil is noticeable, unlike the the 380 this one does eventually sting/numb the hands (I can tolerate about 1 box of 50 before I begin to tire of it).
I really like my cz rami but its much bigger. Still, if you consider the 82/83 or things that huge, the rami is a winner IMHO. High cap small 9, in a scaled down 75 frame -- a very nice design.
You are on your own for a carry 45. There are a number of 1911-ish mid sized carry 45s but I have no experience here.
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I'm not necessarily looking for a carry gun. Just looking to add a gun to my collection that I don't already have. I don't have a 9 mm and I don't have a .45 ACP. I think I would like a full sized 1911 in .45. I think I would like a 9 mm for fun at the range.
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Everyone should have a full size full steel 1911 in their collection.
The 9mm can definitely be a fun gun, and can serve other purposes as well. You can go all poly, or you can hold out for a beautiful old Belgian Hi-Power, get into the "newer" stuff like the CZ75's, or the Glock, or the even newer stuff like the M&P, Ruger SR line, there's just so many options.
The 9mm can definitely be a fun gun, and can serve other purposes as well. You can go all poly, or you can hold out for a beautiful old Belgian Hi-Power, get into the "newer" stuff like the CZ75's, or the Glock, or the even newer stuff like the M&P, Ruger SR line, there's just so many options.
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I will look into both of those. Thanks for the information.
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Go shooting with a friend or someone you know that has some 9's and 45's. Try a few out before deciding. You really can't go wrong either way. If it isn't going to be for carry I'd go steel even in the 9mm just for a little extra heft and range accuracy. In the 1911's you really can't go wrong with. Gov't Model. Plus there are a bunch of good ones out there. Just depends on taste and budget. For some reason I really like Commanders but a longer is probably better for range use. I just picked up a CZ 75 Compact and it feel really nice. Just haven't shot it yet. Also if you go to the dark side (AKA plastic) try to check out a Walther PPQ. Great trigger compared to other polymer gun. Good luck.
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Thanks for the information. I haven't been interested in polymer yet.
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Shot the CZ Compact today, and it was very nice. 200 rounds without a hiccup. I think I may have gotten a good one. The DA pull caused me to have a couple fliers here and there, but the SA was much better than I expected. With practice I should be able to improve with the DA. Very accurate for a compact and really easy to handle. Enjoyed it so much I browsed the CZ selection before leaving the range even though I have no budget or space for another gun right now.
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